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http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/05/gay.marriage.ap/index.html

OLYMPIA, Washington (AP) -- Proponents of same-sex marriage have introduced a ballot measure that would require heterosexual couples to have a child within three years or have their marriages annulled.

The Washington Defense of Marriage Alliance acknowledged on its Web site that the initiative was "absurd" but hoped the idea prompts "discussion about the many misguided assumptions" underlying a state Supreme Court ruling that upheld a ban on same-sex marriage.....

Cheryl Haskins, executive director of Allies for Marriage and Children, said opponents of same-sex marriage want only to preserve marriage as the union of a man and a woman.

"Some of those unions produce children and some of them don't," she said.



So much for "prompting a discussion." Once again, both sides of the political Fuck The Middle system just scream "I'm being reasonable and you're being an ass" at each other.

Date: 6 Feb 2007 13:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elissa-carey.livejournal.com
Yeah, but it's sometimes entertaining to watch! :)

This made me laugh, by the way. Ms. Haskins sounds like a more sane person than most of the opponents to same-sex marriages, since she acknowledges that some unions don't produce children. There are way too many who try to say, instead, that the purpose of marriage is to produce children. (Which is absurd, of course. Babies get made whether you got married or not. It's not like the sperm and ova refuse to mix because you didn't sign a piece of paper or put a ring on a certain finger, or that suddenly they make beelines for each other as soon as you do. Hello? Infertility? Shotgun marriages? Yeah.)

So, basically, those who are introducing the measure are really just using the political system to make a point and send a message to those folks. I think it's a waste of money, time and effort. In addition, they're simply going to annoy those people that they could and should be attempting to sway in other ways. I give them an "A" for the underlying message, but a "D" overall. Back to the drawing board, folks.

Date: 6 Feb 2007 15:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amul.livejournal.com
I won't comment on Haskins until I've seen more about her. I find this whole thing pretty ridiculous. It's just getting in the way of....well, I was going to say debate, but no one in the US political system seems to really concern themself with whether or not anyone else agrees with him/her.

This is one of the reasons I have hope for Obama as a presidential candidate. Even before he's decided to run, he already choses a platform of negotiated discussion, end to bickering, and honest, unemotional debate, and carries a track record to prove it.

On the other hand, he's only got two years experience on the national level. *shrug*

Date: 6 Feb 2007 21:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] os-lunatum.livejournal.com
is this really the only planet i can survive on?

Date: 6 Feb 2007 21:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amul.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, the best informed people to answer that question work at NASA, and they're a little too busy with their sex scandal to answer that right now.

Date: 7 Feb 2007 23:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amul.livejournal.com
Lisa Nowak?

I can't find a story that doesn't assume you already know the story, since this thing is apparently some kind of news agency wet dream.

Oh, wait. Wikipedia to the rescue. Sometimes, the future makes me want to vomit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Nowak

Note the items that were found in her car. The news agencies are more obsessed about the diaper, but the stuff she was carrying - including rubber tubes and black plastic garbage bags, are the part I find interesting.

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