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review of weekend

Thursday night, I took Zombie Queen to see Heroine. It was our second date since we met the weekend before Valentine's Day, and there's not going to be a third. There's just no spark between us, the only thing we have in common is an interest in the same sort of relationship.

Anyway, Heroine was incredibly good. It deals with subject matter that's normally very important to me, but this time it was particularly moving because of the conversation I'd had with Priceless Pearl earlier this week.

Friday, I think I stayed home, working on some photos and chatting on the phone with (f)AD. Frolic Con is coming up, and I plan on showing there, so I need to figure out the What and the How Much really soon, plus crazy deadlines for school are starting to come up.

Saturday, I had a lovely time, starting with dinner with a bunch of friends, followed by seeing Heroine again. The Moonhowler kids are in town for the Transworld Show, and I had bought them tickets, but they didn't end up making it to the show. It was cool seeing it again, as I was more able to push past my raw emotional response and look at the work as a crafted experience. Cave Dwelling Eyes was having a show at Spot 6, so about an hour into the after party I headed out and hung out with her, her husband, and the band of Polish immigrants that cling to CDE despite all her attempts to free herself from her culture. We had a lot of fun and I found this absolutely darling raver girl on the dance floor at one point whom I hope to use as a greek chorus for the Archetyped! series. She seemed very pleased by my interest, so I think there's an above-average chance that she'll call back. CDE's family and friends are so strange to me, they're all introverts, but not in the way that draws me to Wicked Kitten and Silent Dancer. Their introversion does not stem from worry about how the world will react to their true selves, but they are simply too fragile and too scared to reach out and connect with anything. The introverts I usually meet are, underneath it all, dangerously clever, wickedly cunning, and painfully empathetic. These guys just seem like they are easy to bruise. I don't understand what she sees in them, and she is so dismissive of them that I wonder why they stay in contact.

Around midnight, I headed over to Spin to join back up with.... the Kinetic folk (I pause as I write this, wanting to call them "my tribe" but feeling the term no longer fits on my fingers) for a Drag Kings show. It's a little upsetting to me how I'm letting one bitch ruin the memory of an otherwise enjoyable night. I had a lot of fun everywhere, and I usually don't pack nearly that much into a single night. Still, there's this drifting wreckage inside my weekend, and every time it got near me, my radar went off and I veered away from really relaxing into a connection with people I cherish and have not seen in a while. I wish I wasn't like that, wish that my mood didn't affect my enjoyment of my friends so much. I can usually shake that sort of thing off, but it's harder this time for no discernible reason.

I'm just going to have to get used to the idea that I don't have to like everyone who likes my friends. That it's okay to leave the harpies in with the heralds.

Sunday, there was the game, of course, followed by the Transworld Show. Well, sort of. I met up with all the Transworld regulars that mattered to me at the hotel bar. The Purple Haired Girl was positively bouncy about seeing me again, so much so that at first I had quite the wrong impression about her excitement. She's going to be in town all week, and hopefully we'll be hanging out.

Thorn Chain and MoonHowling Wolf chatted with me about their weekend, their subtle and nefarious campaign against the man who has pushed them back to the brink of bankruptcy. I have to admire their handling of the situation. The only thing they said to everyone was, "I had a lot of fun and I loved the actors and the staff, and I will absolutely not be working for Taj Jordan or Music on the Move ever again." It's a tribute to just how well-respected they are that word spread around like wildfire. That man is bad news, and he fucked over the Moonhowler Guys. I don't even know how bad. Hellfire, I only showed up to the after-con bar on the third day, and within 20 minutes, I heard about it from the rumor mill.

It reminded me of one bit of story which I had almost forgotten, when I got to freak out the binder who had underprinted the new edition of Shadowrun books for GenCon. Sprite had called me earlier to let me know that they had messed up and there were only a dozen books to be had, rather than the hundred or so I'd been expecting to pick up. I showed up at the binder, chatted pleasantly with the man for a few minutes and then asked, So how many are ready to go? I'd like to leave as soon as possible.

"Oh, there are fifteen. They'll be ready in about an hour." I feigned outrage. Only 15 boxes? I was told I'd be picking up 50! Fifteen boxes is simply unacceptable. Oh, gods, the look on that man's face as he had to spit out the words, "Not boxes, 15 books." was simply priceless.

The Moonhowler Kids crashed at my place, and we chatted until late in the night as is our wont. This morning, we woke up and I packed them off to the last day of Tranworld. I need to hit the digital labs, and hopefully find some time to hang out with CDE before they get done with everything. I find myself wishing I'd had a bit of time with Tasmanian Distraction while she'd been here.

I'm really feeling very alienated from everything I've worked so hard to connect to, and I don't know what that is about. I've poured myself into this new photography project, and the learning is exciting, but the taste is somehow bitter in my mouth. For months, for at least an entire season, I've sacrificed time with my friends at the altar of my dreams, and I feel like all I have to show for it is smoke and ashes.

I'm re-reading this entry, and wondering where all the feelings are. I talk about all these things that caused really strong emotional reactions in me, but I don't feel like I'm expressing them well. I've lost my words, again. They slipped through my fingers as I reached for another thing, and now I can't find them. I'm on my hands and knees, sifting through my shag rug of memories, cursing myself a fool.

I can't find my words, and I wish that I could find time to watch a movie with Priceless Pearl, or go visit Sword Tongue and watch some anime with her, that particular blend of sexual arousal and platonic friendship. There's something about mutual attraction mingled with the understanding that nothing will ever come of it, like lying on a beach and smelling the surf, but sunning yourself instead of going for a swim.

Like lying on a beach and smelling the surf, but sunbathing instead of diving into an ocean, into an undercurrent. Relaxing, feeling the sand squish through your toes, instead of swimming against the rhythm of the tide. There's an inevitability, and inseparability between oceans and tides. Better to leave it all and just soak up the warmth instead.

I want a womb to crawl into, I want to rest in a place that is not empty, yet also lacking in judgement, I want to be nourished though an umbilical rather than this hunger-inducing trickle that comes from my few meals and far between them.

It is impossible, I know. I understand that I am the only one judging me, discounting that one useless slit whose opinions matter not at all. There is no solace, there is no sanctuary, and I would not find the time to indulge in it even if it were offered. But it hurts to think that it has been so long since I've clasped arms with a comrade, that I may have forgotten how.

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It's a little upsetting to me how I'm letting one bitch ruin the memory of an otherwise enjoyable night.

I certainly hope you're not talking about anyone I'm familiar with.

Well, I'm not, but if I was, wouldn't that be a good enough reason for me to not call her by name?

And just so we're clear, the woman who upset me, did so on Thursday, over the phone. But I didn't let it get to me until Saturday. So that first sentence wasn't some p/a crap.

I'm guessing by your comment that I should apologize for taking pictures during the show. I hadn't realized my camera was so loud as to be heard by anyone. It was the first time I've used it in public, so it if disrupted your experience of the show, I'm truly very sorry about that.

Well, I'm not, but if I was, wouldn't that be a good enough reason for me to not call her by name?

Uh, yeah, because owning up to it would be totally uncalled for...?

In both the case I'm talking about, and the one I'm assuming you're talking about, I don't see what purpose name-calling and mud-dragging would serve. Neither women have ever shown any interest in showing me any respect, and have met my efforts to be cordial, familiar, or friendly with utter disdain and contempt.

I see no point in beating my head against a wall. Not everyone in the world is supposed to get along. They have chosen not to like me, and have chosen to avoid discussing why. I respond to that.

Jesus, you seriously don't get it, do you? Here:

It's a little upsetting to me how I'm letting one bitch ruin the memory of an otherwise enjoyable night.

That it's okay to leave the harpies in with the heralds.

In case you're actually as oblivious as you let on, those are instances of both namecalling AND mud-dragging. They ain't the first, and I know they ain't the last, and I'd watch your damn mouth if I were you.

well, I'm sure matt can speak for himself on this one but I'm guessing he'd be objecting to the "bitch" and even he isn't, I'd like to congratulate you on not letting the powerful performance and heady subject matter prevent you from casually tossing around that word. nice to see you stay true to yourself.

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I really have no idea what you mean. I choose my words carefully, and mean what I say always. If I seem to be casually tossing out verbal violence, it's because I feel it is well-deserved. I've tried being civil for three years, and I'm done with it.

well that's the whole issue isn't it. the fact that you have no idea what I mean, that you can't at least appreciate the irony of it, that you can never see beyond your need to lash out, to express your point of view irregardless of how it's perceived by people you claim to care about and cherish and then later wonder what it is that's just not right ... what is it that's just a little bit off -- just so you know. you most certainly are not the only one judging yourself. it's your way to say and act as you please. it doesn't happen in a void however, impressions linger long after words are spoken and deeds done. patterns emerge and paint a picture, subjective it may be, you still have to consider the audience.

Actually, I was very aware of the irony of it. It's part of what made it hurt so much on Saturday.

...you can never see beyond your need to lash out, to express your point of view irregardless of how it's perceived by people you claim to care about and cherish...

I have tried to be as clear as I can in expressing that this is a problem I'm aware of, one I'm seeking professional help for, and would welcome help with.

It's not an excuse, but it's taken me two years to even get to the point where I can even admit that something has upset me. That I am upset. That I'm allowed to be upset. I still don't know what to do with those feelings, though. I don't have any idea how to express myself clearly without offending others, or channel that anger (or whatever) in any way that isn't merely destructive. I guess this post is an example of that.

I've tried to be open about this issue. Tried to express that it's something that concerns me, and that I want feedback on it. That I would like some help. But none of you know me, and I don't get the feeling that any of you are interested in helping me work through this crap.

If that's true, then I wish someone would just say so, and I'll take my stupid, petty issues elsewhere. If it's not, then I wish people could be a little more gentle and direct about the things they think I need to work on.

There's a difference between allowing yourself to admit that you're upset, and knowing the proper venue to express that you're upset.

I'm tempted to say that this falls under the "isn't this supposed to be my LJ?" category.

Instead, how about this: What would be the proper venue to express that I'm upset? I didn't bring it up while we were out, because I felt that was wrong. I hoped to be able to talk about it to some of my out-of-state friends, but this was too busy a weekend for them. I waited until a few days had passed to calm down before writing about it on my LJ. I didn't feel like there was anyone specific that I could talk to about it.

I stuck it under a cut, so that people who weren't interested wouldn't have to read it. I feel I've made it clear that I use my LJ to express those things that I'm uncomfortable discussing with people face to face, that if people don't want to be subjected to my unhealthy inability to channel my emotions, they should read

amuls_photos.

What should I be doing differently? Because I really don't know.

"I feel I've made it clear that I use my LJ to express those things that I'm uncomfortable discussing with people face to face, that if people don't want to be subjected to my unhealthy inability to channel my emotions, they should read [info]amuls_photos."

So basically you're saying, "Hi, I'm going to be using my LJ to occasionally talk shit about people you probably know (or you yourself) in a public venue... so don't read it if that bothers you! It's just me working out my shit!"

To get a little more constructive, how about a private journal?

More like, "I'm using my livejournal to talk about my emotions, and the ways in which I'm discovering I've damaged my ability to interact with others after finally walking away from a mutually abusive relationship. I realize that most of my methods of handling my emotions are destructive, so if you're going to read this, please try to be helpful rather than critical."

If you think the subject of plays like Heroine should be discussed more openly, then why do you feel I should have a private journal? Maybe that's an overly generous metaphor, given how seriously I take matters of child- and sexual abuse, but I'm working through an experience that we usually leave in the dark. One that I discovered, after getting out of it, a lot of my friends have been through but never discussed with me, because "no one wants to hear about it."

I think people should hear about it. I think people should see it. I think my own story is pretty pathetic by comparison to others, but they don't talk about it.

This is how I react to the world. This is what I did to myself in an effort to hold on to something I should have let go of.

You don't think that's worth showing?

Granted, I'm a diagnosised narcissist, so of course I'm going to think my own story is worth telling.

The subject matter of Heroine is completely unrelated to the fact that talking shit about people in public is just bad, bad form. I have no idea why you're linking the two. If you're always talking about Pittsburgh people or your ex or your mom or whoever when you're talking shit, then make that REALLY FUCKING CLEAR, not throw it vaguely into a paragraph about how it ruined your night (that you spent with people who read this journal). Honestly, I totally see where Egan is coming from, saying what he said below. I tried, but it's hard to believe that you're really that obtuse. (Especially when you say above that you're "done" with trying to be civil. Makes it hard to believe everything you told me about how you're working on being a better person than you used to be.)

And, I'm sorry, but using your emotional problems as an excuse for being an asshole just isn't okay in my book.

Sorry, "asshole" was a bit much. I felt immediately bad after I posted that. I stand by the rest.

Also, context is important when you use words like "bitch". How were we supposed to tell why you were using such a loaded word after seeing Heroine? Obviously no one understands what you're talking about. You weren't aware of how your language choice came across to us. This is exactly what I was talking about in that huge email argument/discussion we had a few months ago about the joke.

How were we supposed to tell why you were using such a loaded word after seeing Heroine?

I really have no response to that. How can anyone who has seen it assume anything but a careful choice of that word, after seeing Heroine? That what upset me, upset me to the point where I wanted to lash out violently?

I assumed that my choice not to discuss the details of what's upset me would, in itself, color the word choice. Imply that something has cut me to the core.

In case you're not just making an effort to turn the tables still, it's absolutely and completely unfair for you to expect people to instantly know your intentions. I don't know about you, but I've never met anyone who could read minds, so expecting an entire social circle to have that power is unrealistic, to say the least.

Alright, the actual content of this discussion is starting to get to me pretty heavily, so I'm going to intentionally tangent here.

While I agree with you, I do feel it's fair to expect that people who look under one of my LJ cuts generally read under my cuts, and therefore should know more about my background than others.

Do you agree or disagree? Again, everything else has been a little bit more than I can handle, so I'd really appreciate it if we could just discuss this particular point.

Well, it's not so much that it's not fair so much as it's not realistic. LJ is the classic case of false familiarity, as it tends to take the place of actual conversation and backstory, and it does so very poorly. Further, it's an entirely public forum, and you also don't seem to lock many, if any, of your posts. That being the case, anyone can come along and comment on any aspect of what you post whenever they feel like it, regardless of how much of your story they know. In short, anyone can look at any of your posts at any time, so it's not realistic to assume that anyone who looks at any of your posts, cut or no, is going to know much about what preceded them.

well it would help if you would stop making everything about you. I think there have been more than enough occasions when someone's offered help of a sort or at least called you on your shit. like I already said, you can react in any fashion you deem appropriate. just don't seem so damned surprised when others reciprocate -- everyone has the right to express themselves and feel whatever it is they feel. all any of us are doing is wrangling with the consequences. when you ask for help, I'm of the mind that you're asking for a pass, that you're afflicted with emotions beyond our ken, that we couldn't possibly relate and that we should make allowances for your unique circumstances.

but your responses to the criticism is always the same, falling along the general lines that whatever you said or did was blown out of proportion, grudging admittance of a possible problem accompanied with the revealation that you were angry or upset, projecting the source of that immediate anger on someone not present and expecting everyone to understand and then a staid apology that reveals very little about your motivation other than the admission of issues.

if you could actually explain to me why matt, julian, and myself are upset -- not by restating things we've already said, but your best guess of our motivation is -- in a manner that demostrates a little empathy, that would be a fine start for just about everything you're having problems with. additionally if you can think of no better reason for doing or saying something, other than to cause harm "verbal violence" or whatever, let's just make it a general rule in your case that it is not a good idea to go through with it especially if somewhere down the line you desire some kind of amiable, positive, and production relationship with whoever's involved.

you may have gotten used to conflict as a way of getting closer, as a way of remaining engaged with people, but it's truly a bunch of nonsense, wasted energy, aimless combustion. try to work towards a solution. if there is no solution to be found (and those would be those years long grudges and conflicts you're nourishing) it's best to leave it cold and dead. you usually are well aware of this immediately, sooner not later.

it would help if you would stop making everything about you.

Fair enough. I don't know you well enough to know where you're coming from, though, and that makes something I have a hard time doing harder still.

when you ask for help, I'm of the mind that you're asking for a pass

Part of my problem is that my egotistical exterior is built to hide the fact that I'm very unsure of my self-worth. It comes across as asking for a pass because underneath, I assume that no one is willing to help, that if I ask for help, everyone will respond, "sorry, I'm too busy."

Particularly given that I still feel new to our group of friends, and that I feel like I'm still being weighed for acceptance, my assumption that you (or anyone in Chicago) would not be willing to offer help grows even stronger.

When help is offered, I have a hard time accepting it because I'm used to such offers being false. I can't really explain it coherently, except to say that it's a lot like what happens if you hit a dog every time you show him a treat. I assume offers of help are just a devious method of trying to make me feel even worse about myself.

but your responses to the criticism is always the same...

Well, yes. When I'm emotionally keyed up, I lose control and fall back into habits I dislike. I've exploded, and I don't know how to put the pin back in the grenade.

While a number of alternate methods have been suggested, so far I've only been able to try them when I'm calm. Further, I can't shake the sense that an effort to legitimately apolgize will be rebuked, and used to further attack me.

if you could actually explain to me why matt, julian, and myself are upset

I'm not going to hazard a guess about Matt's motivations, because I clearly don't understand them. I think you and Julian are upset over word choice, feel that some words are more emotionally charged than others, and by default attack the notion of equality. I assume you feel that, far worse than the actual offense, my unwillingness to take ownership of it is an unwillingness to respect other people's points of view.

let's just make it a general rule in your case that it is not a good idea to go through with it

But.....that's why I haven't been talking to anybody, or going out with any of you. Because I feel like my ability to control this garbage has slipped, and I'd rather people not see me like that. When I have gone out, I've said practically nothing to anyone because I'm constantly assessing my intent. I came out for Heroine, which touched on a lot of raw nerves about a lot of those things that I've had to leave cold and dead, and now I feel like I've blundered even worse.

...conflict as a way of getting closer...truly a bunch of nonsense, wasted energy, aimless combustion.

This much I realize. It's the step past that which I am struggling to find.

I'm not going to hazard a guess about Matt's motivations, because I clearly don't understand them. I think you and Julian are upset over word choice, feel that some words are more emotionally charged than others, and by default attack the notion of equality. I assume you feel that, far worse than the actual offense, my unwillingness to take ownership of it is an unwillingness to respect other people's points of view.

nope not really. I'm pretty comfortable making this a blanket statement that covers the lot of us even though I haven't spoken to matt about any of this and I never really asked her why she was pissed. you see that's the thing with friends; you really ought to listen to them even with all the noise in your head. enough time passes and you get a feel for their likes, dislikes, motivations and what they stand for. we're not just a collective bunch that gets together for play dates. it's all out there right out in the open if you pay attention.

so even though I said you shouldn't make everything about you, this is actually all about you, how you consistently behave like a bastard and try to sell each instance as an isolated incident and force us to decide if we feel like going through this nonsense again. matt thinks you were commenting about someone we all know and love in a completely cowardly manner and I think that as well. if that's not bad enough you use a word that many cowardly overgrown boys use to describe woman they fully intend to harm seconds after going on about how much you appreciated a performance that was all about women surviving experiences with the aforementioned losers; I'm guessing that's about when julian got perturbed. it's not just the one word, it's your past history, your lack of learning, your dubious rationalizations.

we're just sick of your shit is all. good luck with working that out.

Hi. I wrote a locked closed post to you. If you want, jump to my username to read it, it's about this thread.

well, since you are always worried about expressing yourself clearly, FYI, here is the sentence that made me specifically think you were talking about someone we all know: "I don't have to like everyone who likes my friends."

*frowns*

Okay, I can see how that would give off the wrong impression.

I was talking about my Pittsburgh friends.

Well, I'm not, but if I was, wouldn't that be a good enough reason for me to not call her by name?

You never use anyones "real" or LJ names when you pull these stunts. It's always these cutsey nicknames you make up for everyone. If you have something to say to someone, just fucking say it.

If you have something to say to someone, just fucking say it.

Let me be really clear about this: While I agree that I have the issues that have been repeatedly pounded out here, I was not passively-aggressively telling someone that I was mad at them. I was venting. I was complaining that a phone call had ruined my weekend.

I heard through an unverified source that my ex-wife had decided that should couldn't handle the responsibility of taking care of three cats, and so she had mine put to sleep.

I'd say the things I have to say to her if I could, but we've agreed to only speak through our lawyers, and while I'm upset, I'm not so upset that I want to yell at her through lawyers.

Also, there isn't a single person out there who doesn't know which cutesy nickname is his/hers.

Hi. I wrote a locked closed post to you. If you want, jump to my username to read it, it's about this thread.

Ravers? They still exist?

Fifteen boxes is simply unexceptable.
Unacceptable.

I'm re-reading this entry, and wondering where all the feelings are.
Yeh, that's why I end up giving comments like these (above) to your most well-written entries. Good save at the end, though. The metaphors, man! *wishes she could raise eyebrow*

Actually, your word choice without explanation just makes you look clueless (at best).

that was supposed to be in reply to your comment above. I'm sure you can figure out which one I mean.

Well, I guess that's one lesson I'm still trying to learn.

Even now, there are things I'm unwilling to admit to, or discuss openly. I feel like there's something to the fact that both this post and the one you and I argued about around Christmas both included complaints that I'm being inarticulate.

Hi. I wrote a locked closed post to you. If you want, jump to my username to read it, it's about this thread.

It's a little upsetting to me how I'm letting one bitch ruin the memory of an otherwise enjoyable night.

Ok, I've been quiet too long, and I need to speak up here.

Dude, I'm calling you on the simple fact that your passive/aggressive tendencies (case in point here) are no longer acceptable in my book.

To illustrate better what I mean, here is my perception of how you operate nine times out of ten:

Amul: [say something underhanded and/or passive aggressive, in a attempt to be witty]
Someone else: [calls you on it]
Amul: [backpedals and tries to cover it with some sort of really thin BS]

You are not being witty when say these kinds of things and you certainly are not slipping *anything* under the radar. It's plain as day how insecure you are, and your constant attempts to bolster your ego at the expense of those around has grown beyond tiring to me, and is fast approaching annoying.

Take a good hard look at yourself. No, seriously. Try for once to take a third person perspective and see how much of an ass you project yourself being on a regular basis. Ask yourself a few fundamental questions before you open your mouth, such as "Does what I'm about to say, does in fact, have some sort of ulterior agenda?" or "Perhaps now would be a good time to just be quiet and not try and be the center of attention".

OK, I'm done here. I'll end this by saying passive/aggressive tendencies are *so* not OK in my book.

Egan

Take a good hard look at yourself. No, seriously. Try for once to take a third person perspective and see how much of an ass you project yourself being on a regular basis.

I seriously, seriously have been. I've been trying very hard to stop. It's been going pretty badly of late, which is one of the reasons why I've stopped being so social. I stopped going to Wednesdays in the fall to join a therapy group.

The bottom line is, I can't see when it's happening, and I don't know how to be direct, even when I want to be.

I dunno. You're a cool guy, Egan, and I'd like to be someone you could respect, but I don't think I am right now, and right now I suspect that it's going to take me a lot of years to get there.

Self abashing oneself is another tactic that I, personally, don't have a whole lot of respect for either.

Do what you need to do. Take care of your shit, and don't air your dirty laundry. And, don't just talk about, just do it. In time, you'll find that you won't have to try so hard at gaining the respect of those around you, you just will.

Egan

Hi. I wrote a locked closed post to you. If you want, jump to my username to read it, it's about this thread.

You know, from an outside perspective, this all seems a bit...much. I know that it's none of my business. That said, this is Amul's journal. You read it. He has the right to express himself as he sees fit, and you have the right to react to it as you see fit. Would it make you feel better if you had to intuit and grasp at meaning instead of hearing it outright? Would a carefully-constructed photograph or vague metaphor suit you better than the words Amul chose to use? I write a song about a random lucid dream; you hear an ode to a lover.

You're arguing over semantics, and getting so worked up over them that you completely miss one another. I agree that a private journal is a reasonable suggestion, but I also think that it avoids the issue. You don't seem to know each other as well as you think you do. You all want everything spelled out for you, t's crossed and i's dotted.

Be thankful that you differ, and that you have something to learn about everyone here. Your perception colors everything, and you don't own your words, either. I count that as a beautiful thing. Invest your differences in something productive, please.

Seriously.

to all of you, amul and all other posters:

everything you have all said about amul is true. omni, you know i have been telling you these same things for years. but seriously, this is his journal, and public or not, it is still his right to voice what he thinks and feels in a forum that he feels he can express himself in. i have no idea about the play or what charged all of this up, but i will say that as a survivor of some of the most heinous acts that can be done to a child or a woman, the word BITCH is not exactly high on my list of things to get pissed about. it is the intent with which the word is used. granted, omni, you are NOT always the most sensitive to those around you andthe fact that you piss people off on a regular basis and then try to make up for it by offering excuses and half assed apologies. but the rest of you are no better, attacking someone without knowing the facts, automatically jumping to conclusions about who or what he is writting about, and attacking his choice to make the subject of his posts semi annonymous. when he acts up in public, call him on it right away or walk away. and omni, back of the hyper-defensivness when someone does call you on your shit. eventually, no one is going to want to "help" you when all you do is lash out or make lame excuses when you do. if i have offended anyone, that was not my intent, and i'm sure alot of you will be quick to jump all over me for commenting on something i was not a part of, but as his best friend for 16 years, i know better tahn anyone how he can be and how he can be percieved and how poorly he can communicate. i'm not making excuses for him, and i'm not trying to attack him or any of you. you have all made some very valid points. but you have all also lashed out in a rather harsh manner at someone who just really is that clueless. he shouldn't be, granted, but he is. so everyone take a deep breath, and try to find a point to go from here. ok, i'll step off my soapbox now.

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Wow...miss a day, miss alot